I hate you for ruining my first visit to Mecca!

October 18, 2009 at 5:10 pm (Diary, gender discrimination, Mecca, religious police, saudi, women)

I was so excited to go to Mecca. It was going to be my very first time to see the Ka’ba. Well, I went once when I was six years old, but that does not count. My family was going to do Omra and we all started preparing weeks before departing Doha. My mother, sisters and I all made custom made Abayas for the trip. They were EXTRA wide, and we even bought that sticky band that is worn underneath the Sheila to ensure that our hair does not show even if the Sheila accidently falls. So I guess what I am trying to say is that we all looked super decent and properly covered. My mother memorizes the whole Quran and she knows a lot about Islam, so she was mentoring us during the whole trip and giving us advice on how to seek every second of this spiritual experience. My dad was very excited and was asking me to take pictures so that we remember this trip as our first family trip to Mecca.

We arrived safely to Jeddah airport and took a taxi to our hotel in Mecca. I still remember the taxi’s driver’s name, it was written on this huge white board behind the seat. I thought that was weird and so I took a picture of it. I also took pictures of many weird signs I saw during the trip which I might add later.

I couldn’t see the Ka’ba from the hotel window. We all hurried up to catch the afternoon prayer. As I was entering the Haram, my heart was pounding and my eyes were looking straight ahead waiting for its first encounter with the Ka’ba. I felt a rush of blood in my body the moment I saw it. How great, how peaceful. Finally, I am here. As my eyes were fixed on the Ka’ba, I kept praying in my heart and asking god to accept this Omra.

Anyways, the story I want to tell you actually begins with the first prayer inside the Haram. It was the afternoon prayer and while we were trying to find a nice spot to pray a man, who apparently was one of the religious police, shouted at us “THIS KIND OF CLOTHING IS FORBIDDON, ITS HARAAAM, HARAAAM, THIS WILL TAKE YOU TO HELL SISTERS”. Of course, everyone within teen feet of our radius heard that and stared at us. I was very confused, why this man was shouting at My mother said “Just ignore him”, I asked her “what is wrong with our cloths?”, she said “oh they just mean that we should wear the abaya on our head and not shoulders”, I asked again “Why?”. She said “Because they believe that this defines the body’s shape, and this is forbidden”. I did not know if I should laugh or be mad, but I was really bothered by the way he spoke to us. Plus, I decided to get rid of all negative feelings and concentrate on this spiritual experience. But that was impossible!

What happened was that in each prayer, one of those bearded men would shout at us. If not them, the religious police women would do. I did not understand why they were doing that. Is really my cloths so !!!! I do not even know which word to use. How can an extra large black abaya is not covering, or proper enough for them. How do they look at it? Do they think that my shoulder line will actually seduce someone? Or that it seems sexy and appealing? The thing is, I was wearing Sheila that falls over my shoulders, so what was their problem. Or is that they just like to shout at women? At one point, a very scary looking man, his beard was so long that it reaches his navel, and his clothes were too short that the almost reached his knees was speed walking after me shouting “THE PROPHET HAS PROHIBITED THIS UNPROPER CLOTHING”. I was walking really fast that I almost started running trying to get away from him. These kinds of things happened with each prayer, five time a day for three days. How can I concentrate on this spiritual experience while those scary looking men are pointing fingers and shouting that we will go to hell! Who are they to say that! On top of that, while we were doing 6awaf, circling around the Ka’ba, one of those men was hitting his stick on the flour and shouting “cover your face, cover your face”. I thought, that is it! Everyone knows that covering the face while doing tawaf is forbidden! Seriously, those people has gone too far forbidding things that are allowed in Islam. One of the ladies was already wearing niqab, a face veil, and the man shouted, cover your niqab! The woman just snapped at him and started shouting! Maybe we, women just ought to kill ourselves!

Do they really think they are doing good when they are embarrassing people and ruining their spiritual experience like that? I tried so hard to shut them out, but once I control my anger one of them start shouting again and the femenatzi monster in me just struggles to come out.

What we have noticed is that these shouting are only for khaliji women, Arabian gulf women, who are dressed in black. If I was wearing a colofull abaya, they would assume that I am Egyptian or Lebanese and leave me alone. When I asked my mother, she said that they know about this issue since they were young. I was really surprised. I also remember mentioning this story to one of my friends in Doha and she agreed with my mom : “my older sister knows about this, so every time she goes there she wears a green abaya and no one bothers her at all. I went once with her and saw the difference in treatment myself because I was wearing a black abaya and she was wearing a green one”. This made me conclude that this shouting is about their own backward traditions and has nothing to do with religion.

What hypocrisy! They pretend to by holy and religious and know everything about god. And then you find them all standing in front of the women entrances; the religious police and the regular ones, all gathering there. Staring so bad at women. They think we cannot notice that from our sunglasses, but I can see you scanning me. Damn it I can see you scanning me, I can almost see what goes on in your head! Damn it, respect that long beard, and respect this holy place! And then, if I try to escape their looks and go through the public entrance they start shouting again.

Even my dad and brother were not left a lone. My dad is a heavy smoker, so he was looking for some cigarettes. When he asked in one of the shops, the shop keeper shouted “KAFER (ATHIEST) , GET OUT OF HERE”. My dad was shocked and did not understand what happened, he went to another shop and the same thing happened. He then saw a man smoking down the street and asked him about what was going on. The man said that cigarettes are not allowed near the Haram and he must go to the suburbs to buy one. Couldn’t the shop keepers simply explain that to my dad instead of shouting at him and accusing him of being an atheist? Why this exaggeration?

My brother on the other hand found one of his friends there. They decided to go shopping for souvenirs together. In the market they were both talking on the phone which apparently was a very suspicious behaviour to the religious police. One of the bearded men approached them and said “Brother, I will have to ask you to leave the market right away because it is a family place”. My brother said “but I am here with my family, plus this is a public place you cant ask me to leave, I am doing some shopping”. The man replied “ I don’t see any shopping bags with you, and you are talking on the phone and flirting with women, fear god brother”. My brother just snapped, he said “listen, if I want to flirt I wont do it in this place. Do you think I have no manners that I would do such thing only few steps away from the house of god. And I am not leaving”. The man became nervous and said “I will have to call the police”. My brother said “ok call them”. A police man was already waiting behind the bearded man, he approached my brother and said that he must obey and leave. My brother just ignored them and went to another shop.

And to give the perfect ending to this story, I must tell you about the last incident. My little brother and I wanted to get some souvenirs before departure. So we went to the market which was only few meters away from the Haram. The moment we entered my brother and I felt very uncomfortable. Shopkeepers were staring in a way that made me feel naked. We both decided to go back to the hotel and not buy anything. On the way back (the hotel, the haram and the market are all few steps away from each other) an old man stopped his car next to us, rolled down his window and sticked his head out, he had white hair and white beard, so I thought he was 70 years old or something. He said “hey little boy, shall I give you a ride”. I looked at him and saw him licking his lips and biting them, then rolling his eyes between me and my little brother. My mouth and eyes were wide open form the shock! He repeated his words and said “Hey, let me give you a ride, come on, get in the care”. My brother, not realizing what was going on said “no thank you, we live right here”. I grabbed my brother’s hands and started walking really fast to the hotel. The man was still licking and biting his lips. I don’t know if he was perverting over me or my brother.

I was really put off by people there. I almost cried for not being able to pray in front of Ka’ba because of those extremists who prevented that. I hated that I was struggling inside me to keep my anger instead of focusing on prayers. They distracted me and ruined my first Omra. Other than that, Mecca was so beautiful. I enjoyed visiting the historical places that were mentioned in the Quran. But I felt so bad for those who were living in poverty. I could not believe that there are people living in such conditions in an Oil Producing state. They were living in small houses on the mountains that were in real bad condition. The roads were a disaster and even kinds clothes were torn and worn out. I guess, the most important thing I learnt was to wear a green abaya to be left alone. I hope to go there again soon.


  1. homme du Qatar said,

    omg.. that’s funny and sad at the same time.. this happened to me and my mum once, a guy was pointing with a stick to her and telling her to cover her face, so I pulled the stick from his hand, broke it and threw it at him.. the rasool pbuh said, no violent words are allowed in the haram, and these men are committing much more than words and actions, but intentions of dark and hypocrite ideas.. I did though pray next to al Kaaba, and touched the black stone, but I came out with my new jalabia mashqoqah men alne6.. etqoolin dash souq alkhoudra.. may god forgive me for saying that.. madina had a calmer atmosphere.. inshallah your future husband will take you there and you will have the best spiritual journey of a life time..


    • syed said,

      what an excellent fabricated lie this girl made. i have been in haram so many times that i dont remember the nos, I have never seen such things over there. Its a lie to denounce Islam. Only at the time of Salah the women police used to separate women from men that’s it and this is according to a hadith. Please if you dont know the truth then dont publish it here to make other people misunderstood islam.

      • Nadia T said,

        This isn’t a lie mate cause I personally experienced it myself whilst in hajj last year…

      • Adeen said,

        This is not a fabricated lie why would someone just create something like this for the fun of it? I’m here right now and experiencing the same exact thing as her so don’t accuse someone of lying if you’ve never been in their shoes

  2. I CARE said,

    I agree with HQ, Madinah is calmer and more spiritual, if that’s what you’re looking for. Plus there are certain times for women to go and sit there and men are asked to leave the mosque.

    I’m sorry you had to deal with people like those. I can share dozens of stories about those ignorant *****les too. Like you said, they know about islam as much as i can speak Chinese.

    You feel helpless towards this. You want to change it but people will call you all kinds of stuff.

  3. Bleu said,

    Sorry… This is the sad truth of many people …

    “Basically, blinders are used to keep the horse focused on what is in front of it.

    Since the horse can’t see everything in it’s peripheral vision, it keeps the horse from becoming distracted or scared. You will notice that blinders are used in situations where there may a lot of distractions, such as public places. “

  4. nur said,

    i’m so sorry to hear of your experience sister…hope my mum doesn’t get harrassed like this when she’s there for hajj and umra in 2 weeks time.

    i did warn mum of how perversed men are there after hearing quite a few colourful experiences from friends that i knew who had grown up there and they were guys too! but for the religious police to humiliate you like that i front of the káa’ba and you were wearing an ever-wide black abaya -i think they should be rounded up and be reminded of what the real islam is. they were the ones who were truly disrespectful and out of line in the house of Allah.

    its so evident that even in the most holiest place in islam, that they had absolutely lost the beautiful spirit of islam. such a shame.

    but sis, just keep reminding yourself that you’re there for Allah only and to keep doing the best ibadah you can because in hindset -isn’t this experience a micro version of what life is. there will always be people giving you shite, stopping you from doing the right thing but Allah needs to see just how dedicated you are to Him from these experiences, to see how resilient you are in terms of truly living this life only for Him (Allah).

  5. aBa said,

    OMG ,, this is so Funny i feel like reading my own past ! but so sad don’t worry next time

    we go if just one soul opens it’s mouth mine will be even bigger !

    • mimizwords said,

      LIL BROOOO i miss you! wow it feels great that you are reading my blog! I love you 7abibi. I know you will take good care of your big sister. How come you didn’t upload any photo for a long time? i bet Mohana is keeping you super busy – most youngest photo editor in the world! proud of you mmwaaaaa7

  6. aBa said,

    love you 2 (worlds youngest editor) LOOl well yea but actually school is what’s eating my time i read everything but this is the first time i comment i didn’t know i could comment with out having an account anyway hope ur loving london , we all miss you 😥
    see ya !

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    No, I didn’t find your blog via twitter 🙂
    Have a great day!

    • mimizwords said,

      Hi there, thank you, I always welcome new readers. But where are you from, I couldn’t understand your blog. which language do you speak?

    • mimizwords said,

      oh i just saw that I can pick the language I want ..cooooool

  8. BLOGitse said,

    Hi again!
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  9. sf said,

    That was one horrible experience. Thanks for the tip, inshallah some day when we do go to mecca, its green abaya for me!! Someone should take a video camera and record these horrible men and those perverts and send a copy to their officials there telling them if they don’t get rid of these losers, the video will go public!! What a shame!

  10. Nesreen said,

    Already I can not stand saudi Arabia (and its relationship with America and its relationship with Arab and Islamic Issues ) i can not stand the AL Saoud Family , and some Saudi Behavour has often disgusted me (arrogance ) so this article has put me off even More , I may not do my Haj fard and i will ask Allah for forgiveness , he will understand .

    • mimizwords said,

      Nesreen I dont like many things in Saudi either, but lets not mix the politics with the people. Just like every where else in the world, there are nice and bad people. Unfortunately, we only saw the bad on that trip.

  11. Saleh said,

    Nesreen, can’t agree more with you about the saud bastards they are.

    Sorry you had to see and experiance that kind of things.

    A friend of my went there to and he had a little fight with the so called religious police to.
    Some idiot with a beard was yelling at him not to pray at the grave of prophet wile his back turned to the kaaba.

    But he told me also that if you have a european password they live you alone. and he was pakistani so he had a bit luck, anyway.
    I hope you next experiance will be much better and without the saud in power in such a important place.

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  15. vimoh said,

    Hello from India.

    I am neither a Muslim nor a Qatari, but I totally relate to your emotions. Such people exist in every country and in every religion. Try and not let them affect your link with God.

    Wish you all the best.

  16. Jael said,

    Salaam Aleykum Mimiz,

    I stumbled across your post via the Angry Arab blog and found your story interesting and insightful. It’s regrettable that such a significant day was ruined by the attitudes of some of the men (and female religious police) you encountered, hopefully your future travels to Mecca will be more peaceful.

    I found interesting to read about the man who shouted at you to cover your face while circling the Ka’ba. Also, I imagined the religious police would be trained to have more tact so that if they have a comment about your dress they would point it out in a more discrete way. Even though I am not Muslim, I am a Mexican-American female PhD student who has worked with Muslim women here in Berlin (some of whom have done the Hajj) so through them I have come to learn about the significance of it and am shocked that someone would dare exhibit such behavior during such a moment! But the following observation you made I find also true: different people have simply different interpretations of Islam and its a pity they feel the need to point them out to you in such a rude way.

    I also enjoyed your observations on the nuances regarding the color of the abaya. You write that depending on the color you wore you probably would have not been harrassed. Can I ask you, why would people have reacted differently if you were Egyptian and or Lebanese with a green abaya, for example? Are the expectations for Muslim women from these places different than for khaliji women? It’s likely I am missing the cultural knowledge on this, so please enlighten me. 🙂

    I have enjoyed browsing through your blog and thoughts, keep writing!

    Greetings from cold and rainy Berlinistan,

    • mimizwords said,

      Dear Jael

      Thank you for your comment, I will be more than Happy to give you a real insight, I will try to be objective and not let my liberal beliefs camouflage things.

      The thing is, Black abaya is associated with Women from the Gulf. The color originally comes from Iran, like many other kinds of covers, such as battolah, which I have written about in this blog. Khaliji women developed a certain style of covering that distinguish’s them from other Muslims. Moreover, the Khaliji culture is known to be the most conservative and most closed minded. Other countries such as Lebanon and Eygpt have been far more advanced and educated than the Arabian gulf and have much more diverse races and have been strongly influenced by western vlaues through occupation. The arabian gulf was not that affected by British occupation, values and life style remained the same. There is a whole long political history argument here, I will just give you the summary.

      And so, Khaliji people judge each other and do not really care about others because they are already “too liberal” in their traditions. So when you wear green abaya, you are not khaliji, so whatever you do doesnt matter

      We could discuss this more via email


      • jael said,

        Hola again Mimiz,

        Thank you for your reply, I get it now.

        PS: Spelling does matter…but not as much as content and whatever minimal mistake you have made does not interfere with your post. (re:dude’s comment)

  17. dude said,

    dude…check your spelling and I hope Alah will grant you another visit with fewer irritations.

    God bless

    • mimizwords said,

      hey, where do I have mistakes? I know my spelling is bad 🙂

  18. Perspective said,

    What’s odd is that you see nothing wrong with the way you view the religion. You make special clothes for the trip. You actively participate in the religion’s discrimination against women, yet you condemn others for doing the same? Why is your view of the religion better than theirs?

    • mimizwords said,

      Hi there

      Well, What irritated me was that the things they have forced on us are not part of the religion and did not exist before. I had to go along, otherwise, I wont be able to finish my trip. For example, covering the face(which I refused to do), and not praying in front of Ka’ba( which I had to do, or they would have beaten me). and everyone knows that these things did not exist before, its not my personal view that I want to enforce on them or something.

      What I did for preparations, was something that is required not just for women, but for men, to dress modestly. personal view has nothing to do with this, I am going to the house of God, not a visit to a friend. So there are certain rules that are well known and apply on all Muslims. What I criticized is those things that were cerated by the Saudi religious police. These kind of things did not happen when my grandmother was a young woman.

      My view on religion remains private in my daily life, I don’t force it on others, and I certainly don’t expect others to force their views on me. The trip to Mecca is not part of my daily life. The rules are simple and known, and I was surprised that some of these things were changed.

      • Troy said,

        I’m afraid I have to agree with what Perspective has written. It seems to me that the horrendous treatment you received has everything to do with religion rather than nothing.

        While what you describe may have nothing to do with the way you view and practice your religion, it obviously has a lot to do with the way others practice theirs. It also seems, rightly or wrongly, that these abusive people seem to think that their conduct is somehow grounded in the precepts of the faith.

        This alone would make me reflect on what I adhere to.

  19. Librawoman said,

    well I have mixed feelings about your posting and I will tell you why.
    first of all I have been to Omrah and so I’m familiar the scene and with some of what you’ve described.

    first of all I’m really sorry if you really went through that kind of ordeal as we all know how profound and life changing a trip like that would be for any muslim person.
    I know the women police at the Mecca haram could be quite forecful and lack tact while dealing with the public unlike the police at the “madina” haram but in no way shape or form do they expect the woman to cover her head like u described. Everybody wears normal abyas and they are treated just fine. On the other hand the women who wear the Abya starting with their heads are the “shia” and no body bothers them. While i was there, I wore blue, black and all kinds of Abyas the treatment was the same though out the change of colours :)So I do not know who told you or where did u come up with that explanation regarding the Abya!

    Secondly regarding the use of cell phones, with all due respect I do not think you were truthful, everybody there uses cell phones and people simply use them all over the place and I saw them even using them inside the Haram so again am not sure what or where did u go because they are permitted all over the place..

    I also was reallly surprised or rather shocked when you commented about the covering of the face as we all know that prophet Mohamad had strictlly prohibted that; so what idiot would ask a woman to do so in the haram. Simply my dear does not make sense what you are saying..On the other hand while walking from the haram to my hotel i was met by a young man or rather a boy who had asked me to cover my face.. but that was outside and not inside the haram.

    what i felt awful about is when you said about the man in the car who was trying to harass you or your brother, and I will give you that. I my self while doing tawaf was dumb founded when I felt something hard rubbing against my back ( you guys can imagine the kind of pervert who might do such a thing in a holy place like infront of the Kabba, but they do exist) as soon as I turned he was gone. So I believe you.

    Again regarding feeling naked while shopping I second that too, but not all sales men are like that. I had some shop owners who had wrote thier cell numbers on top of the business one and when I got mad and said i was here for Omrahand nothing else, they said they would love to know me and make my stay more pleasant and show me around; so i threw the cards in thier face and went out.

    you have also generalized when you talked about the treatment of the local people there. When i went there I experinced really nice people who were trying to help in every way possilbe. I will add that the culture is totally different, there is the arrogance that we know of Sauid’s. But you will always meet decent people who will break the stigma others attached to them and make you change your mind.

    all and all, I feel bad for you but i know there were some exaggeration on your part regarding some on the stuff you mentioned.

    hope you have a better trip next time.

    • mimizwords said,

      Hi there

      So what I understood is that, if you had a similar experience to mine, then what I said was true, and if you didn’t, then what I said doesn’t make sense and is exaggerated?

      Wearing Abaya on the head is not only for Shia? who told you that? My uncle’s wife wears Abaya on the head and she i snot shia. and if you have noticed the women police in the Haram are wearing that too, and they are definitely not Shia.

      And about the cell phone, you are accusing me of lying? really? Why would I say such a thing? It was true and it happened, by I guess you would only believe me if it happened to you. You seem to misunderstand what I said, the police man approached my brother thinking that he was flirting with his mobile phone, I did not say that using mobile phones were forbidden.

      If no one shouted at you to cover your face during tawaf, doesnt mean that it doesn happen. It happened to me, my sister and mom and many other friends and relatives. Yes I was surprised probably more than you, and it does not make sense that it happens, and yes they are idiots. but it happened, and if you don’t believe that such things happen all the time, it is up to you. But please do not imply that I am not being truthful in what I am writing.

      Everything I have written is true, and I am sure that there are some who had worse experience. If you think that I exaggerated or haven’t said the truth just because your experience is different than mine, it is up to you.

      From your comment I guess you are not from the gulf, and thus many things might seem odd to you. But I am sure that any of the readers who are from the gulf will know that what I said is more than 100% true.

  20. Moroccan said,


    Thanks for writing such interesting story. You are right that Muslims from outside the Gulf get treated differently (be it dress code or otherwise).

    The only thing I’d like you to consider is that because these stories can be easily picked up by any “western media” (especially in the US ) and be used to denigrate and demonize the Saudi people as a whole (not that they are not already demonized in US media), and because you write in English, I highly suggest you take extra care in making sure that what you write can not be mis-used to spread prejudice or hatred against any ethnicity or religious groups.

    We Arabs understand very well what you mean and what you don’t mean and we want people to write about these things.

    Others however would use this as an opportunity to justify prejudice, not just against Saudi, but against all Muslims and Arabs.

    Thanks again for your story wa salam.

    • I CARE said,

      if something is wrong, we say it’s wrong!

      Who gives a **** what the US media thinks? So we shouldn’t talk about our sick problems in our society just because the “US Media” might see it?

      Plus, it’s not like Saudis, or arabs like you in general, do not tell all kinds of lies about The States. For God’s sake, we’re taught to hate them in schools and mosques.

      I’m not getting off subject, i’m just trying to say that if you want people to look at you nicely then simply BE NICE instead of trying to hide our failure to be real Muslims.

  21. Qureshi said,

    I have read this article and consider this an exaggeration of fact. I have worked and lived in Saudi Arabia for 30+ years and have preformed several Umras and 3 Hajj alone, with my family, during crowded months. I have never ever faced such experiences and neither my friends and relatives. I have notices some minor incidences but they are generally focused near the Holey Stone when people try to rush and abuse each other. If something like this has really happened I am confident that it may be have been provoked by their adverse behavior.

  22. mimizwords said,

    I dont understand why people consider my story an exaggeration! Is it becuase you simply didn’t have the same experience, or that you do not know any one who went through the same thing or even did not see it with your own eyes?

    There are much worse stories than mine about life in saudi, havent we seen enough in the media?

    Why would I lie about my mother, father and brothers? what would I gain from telling a lie about my trip to Omra?

    Would some one tell me their story so that others would know that what I am saying is more than true! Havent your read the first comments of readers agreeing with me and telling parts of their own experience.

  23. Bill said,

    Muslims seem to get the most out of their religion. Other religions don’t have a big beautiful Disney World (mecca) that they can take a holiday & spend an entire week devoted to praying and throwing rocks at Satan. I truly believe that fanatical muslims (you know the type… those guys who fly airplanes into buildings) might not hate christians (otherwise known as infidels to muslims) as much if the christian folks had a big black cube (with a meteorite in one corner) to walk around and pray too. Keep on being cool muslim people!!!

  24. Sofi said,

    I have gone to omrah alhamdulillah, non of the religious police men harassed me, well once there was this religious man that was telling women to pray in the back I don’t know if that counts , but the police women were annoying they have no communication skills what so ever all they know is shouting. However I can relate to the “stare-eyed” thing in the mall, our hotel was the same building as the mall and obviously i had to go inside the mall to get to the hotel room and there was a group of religious men who always stared at me not in a good way as if they hate it me from all their heart they never smiled! I also found it weird that all the people who work at the malls and shops are men no women at all well maybe its not weird its Saudia other than that I liked the spiritual part

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